Forbes: “Double Down: Obamacare Will Increase Avg. Individual-Market Insurance Premiums By 99% For Men, 62% For Women”

Here is a great reference for your liberal and blinded friends (but I repeat myself) who believe that:
1) our government should even be involved in “healthcare” and
2) Obamacare will LOWER premiums.

The news is not good, but entirely anticipated by those opposed to this PARTISAN piece of government control.

Based on a Manhattan Institute analysis of the HHS numbers, Obamacare will increase underlying insurance rates for younger men by an average of 97 to 99 percent, and for younger women by an average of 55 to 62 percent. Worst off is North Carolina, which will see individual-market rates triple for women, and quadruple for men.

Read the great analysis here.

3 Responses

  1. SRT: But women’s premiums will be LOWER then men’s and they, the single ones, will be thankful for this and free birth control, free check ups, and free abortions… AND the free mental health care they will need to cope with their empty lives whilst they blame men for their predicament as they assert they enjoy their supposed freedom from responsible behavior. The freedom they perceive men unjustly have even when married and providing for their family with the vitally important hard work of the mother of their children, whether she chooses to stay at home or not.

  2. You’ve lost the history of how this all happened, dude–and why when you criticize and poke fun of so-called “Obamacare,” you’re MAKING FUN OF YOURSELF! IGNORANTLY, IRONICALLY.

    Indeed, it’s the fault AGAIN of the Great White Party of Hate (the GOP, to most)–stumbling down the wrong side of history AGAIN. Here’s how it went down:

    1) Democrats and liberals propose single payer health care based on the most efficient model existing…wait for it…wait for it…MEDICARE! But wait…isn’t Medicare a BIG GOVERNMENT INTRUSION??? TOO COSTLY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?

    In a word, NO. With only 3% of the costs going to administration, guess what agency is MORE EFFICIENT THAN the PRIVATE MARKET running health care?

    Wait for it…wait for it…wait for it…THE US GOVERNMENT!! :-)) YAY LIBS!! Right again!!

    2) BUT…the GOP pooh-poohs single payer because of its “intrusion” by government in to the revered Private Market, and proposes…wait for it…wait for it…wait for it…a system REMARKABLY SIMILAR TO OBAMACARE! Run by for-profits, for…wait for it…wait for it…wait for it…PROFIT!!!

    YAY!! JUST what ReThuglicans LOVE…MONEY!!

    Or…do they?? Well, they did, until Obama….wait for it…wait for it…wait for it…

    3)…AGREED TO IT! Yes, what is now known (erroneously!) as “Obamacare,” would be better called GOPcare or RomneyCare or RepublicCare. THEY INVENTED IT!! As an alternative to single payer. (Really, they invented it to feed more cash to their rich friends in the insurance business–but we forgot about THAT dirty little deal, didn’t we! I, for one, DID NOT.)

    4) BUT–now that Obama agreed to it, that would make him a hero of the GOP as well as some Libs. Plus all the poor that would save money over private health care, and win him more votes! THAT wouldn’t be good! (I didn’t approve the private mkt Obamacare, it’s too dependent on private industry. I support SINGLE PAYER–a FAR BETTER SYSTEM, as proven by the Medicare SUCCESS STORY).

    So Mitch McConnell–whose ONLY STATED GOAL in 2009 was “DESTROY OBAMA”, NOT anything to do with improving health, or the government, or the nation, you’ll note–led the Rethugs to OPPOSE the now-FORMER GOP health care plan, and dubbed it “ObamaCare”. In a sad, pathetic attempt to brand it negatively.

    But history will recall Obama as the first Prez with the courage to create ANY kind of US health care plan for pretty much all–even if it was the one the GOP first proposed. (Thanks, Mitt Romney!) McConnell’s plan is about to BACKFIRE! YAY decent nice people supporting health care for all!! BOO mean, small minded dumb GOP/Tea Party!!

    5) Now that the GOP-created health care plan was adopted by Obama and funded by MARKETS, this boosted the economy! The MARKETS LEAPED to embrace it: HEALTH INSURANCE STOCKS SKYROCKETED AS SOON AS OBAMACARE PASSED!!!

    6) SO now that GOP idea of a private market-run health care market is COSTING US TOO MUCH–who do you blame? I know who I blame: Republicans. Tea Partyers.

    The GOP is too stupid and ignorant to research, understand, and accept that THEIR OWN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM–the one THEY created, owned and accepted UNTIL Obama agreed to it–is failing. Which is why Dems rejected in the first place, until nothing else pleased the nitwit GOP, not even their OWN PLAN THEY ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.

    When you criticize so called Obamacare, YOU CRITICIZE A GOP-CREATED IDEA–a FAILED NOTION thta the private market can provide affordable health care.

    Dems and liberals knew this all along. But we accepted this gnarly, twisted, overwrought, too-complicated GOP-created health care plan, “Obamacare,” as a COMPROMISE and WORKAROUND solution. FOR NOW only.

    Conclusion: There is only one good SOLUTION, the one originally proposed by Dems and Libs in the beginning:


    Because only the US govt is MORE EFFICIENT than PRIVATE MARKETS in running health insurance. DUH.

    You Republicans got all the crap health care you bought and paid for when you elected STUPID TEA PARTY AND GOP REPS who KNOW NOTHING, DO NOTHING and have the ABSOLUTE LOWEST APPROVAL RATINGS OF ANY LEADER **EVER**. Including Hitler, Stalin and Napoleon. (And the lowest IQs. But didn’t we already knew that, right? Well…I did.)

    And you blame Obama??? Reeeeeeeeeeeeetarded.

  3. Tim,
    LBJ is on record (Recorded phone calls) telling Teddy Kennedy that Medicare was going to cost way too much. You, Teddy (The Killer), LBJ (The Liar), and Obama (The Liar2) all deswerve each other:

    (And that cam from the New York [Rag]Times)

    “A health program yesterday runs $300 million, but the fools had to go projecting it down the road five or six years. And when you project it, the first year it runs $900 million. Now I don’t know whether I would approve $900 million second year or not. I might approved 450 or 500. But the first thing, Dick Russell [a Democrat senator from Georgia] comes running in saying, ‘My God, you’ve got a one billion-dollar program for next year on health; therefore I’m against any of it now.’ Do you follow me?”

    At one point, Wilbur Mills, the powerful chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, expressed concern to Mr. Johnson about the cost of expanding the Medicare proposal. The president told him not to worry.

    “I’ll take care of [the money]. I’ll do that … We had an old judge in Texas one time … we called him Al Caldy … old Al Caldy Roberts, and he said, when they talked to him one time that he might’ve abused the Constitution and he said, ‘what’s the Constitution between friends?’ And I say…, that 400 million’s not going to separate us friends when it’s for health. …

    On a Conservative Health care system that would work:

    By Chuck Woolery and Mark YoungMonday, August 19, 2013
    It is no surprise to anyone that Obamacare is a total train wreck that will so devastate America that we may never recover from the damage. Polls show that Americans didn’t want it before the law passed and still don’t want it today. But like parents force-feeding medicine to a child “for his own good,” President Obama and the left are convinced that we, the great unwashed masses, are not smart enough to make our own decisions.

    Currently, some members of Congress are threatening to refuse to raise the debt ceiling unless Obamacare is defunded. As usual, we are hearing two major arguments, the first being that shutting down the federal government will destroy our nascent economic recovery. The second is this: How do you fix health care if you do defund Obamacare?

    First things first: Shutting down the government is not a bad thing. Think of all the despair a few months ago over sequestration. People said that if sequestration cuts kicked in, the economy would fall off a cliff. Have we fallen over the edge yet? Nope.

    Now on to the second issue of how we could improve health care if we are lucky enough to stop this abomination called Obamacare. Here are some suggestions.

    1. Implement tort reform: Cut down on frivolous lawsuits and defensive medicine, and you reduce the cost of health care by 10 percent instantly. While we’re at it, let’s go back to the time when lawyers were not allowed to advertise on TV. We don’t need lawyers on TV talking lazy, unemployed bums into claiming brain damage from a phony medical error.

    2. End state government-run health insurance monopolies: Allow insurance companies to sell across state lines. Allow anyone from any place to buy the best coverage for the money, regardless of the state. Instead of only having a few choices, you would have more than 1,300. Competition lowers cost — just look at your cellphone bill now compared with 10 years ago.

    3. Reduce drug-addicted newborn babies: There is a drug-addicted baby born every hour in America, at a cost of $1 million per child. This needs to stop. Make having crack babies child abuse punishable by a minimum of five years in prison. When people know there is a tough consequence for their actions, many will change their ways. At least those who break the law won’t be making more drug-addicted babies for five years.

    4. Create health saving accounts: Allow people to buy low-cost catastrophic health coverage, and then put money into a savings account for their everyday health care. Watch how prices drop when consumers start asking how much a certain treatment or procedure costs before getting it. Americans know how to shop, so let them.

    5. Break the American Medical Association’s grip on health care rules: Allow other medical practitioners to serve patients. We have a major doctor shortage, and it’s only going to get worse when 30 million new users are dropped into Medicaid. Medicaid recipients can’t find a doctor now, so imagine what it’s going to be like.

    We need nurse practitioners, physician’s assistants and other health care providers to have expanded abilities to treat people. There is no evidence to show that this would diminish the quality of health care, and people would get treatment much quicker at lower cost.

    6. Congress and the president must use the exact same health care system and coverage they force on the rest of us. Watch how that changes things.

    7. The average American obtains 12 prescriptions per year, an increase of 39 percent in just 10 years. Why? Advertising. Stop drug companies from advertising. TV commercials are convincing would-be hypochondriacs that they suffer from low T (low testosterone), ED (erectile dysfunction) and our favorite, TMDD (too many darn drugs).

    Save the $12 billion per year spent on advertising drugs that we don’t need and just lower our drug costs.

    8. Encourage real health care: Right now, we don’t have a health care system; we have a sick care system. Let’s get doctors better trained in nutrition and preventative medicine.

    9. Make people responsible for their own health: Do you smoke, eat too much, or have uncontrolled, high blood pressure? Why should the rest of us pay for your bad habits? If you make poor choices, insurance companies should be able to raise your rates, not mine.

    All these changes would slash the cost of health care by up to 30 percent to 40 percent. The president and Congress could work together and implement most of these changes in no time.

    The effort being made by three brave members of Congress — Sens. Mike Lee, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul — to defund Obamacare may be our nation’s last hope. It is time that all of us made sure members of Congress know we’re watching them.

    Chuck Woolery is the former host of TV shows such as “Wheel of Fortune,” “Love Connection” and “Greed,” and is currently a national radio commentator. Mark Young is an advertising executive, author and futurist.

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    On the other hand, you would not know the truth if it hit you in the face.

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