Some thoughts and facts on Obamacare – posted before President “Sham Wow” begins his desperation prime time pitch (again) tonight


So much is being said about healthcare right now.  And rightfully so.  The Right is feeling good that the current Obamacare debacle has a great chance of dying before the Congress recess in August. And Obama is feeling the pinch from his own party that it is too much too soon.

Of course, the Right should never underestimate a corrupt administration’s ability to ram this thing through one way or another and the Left shouldn’t underestimate Obama’s ability to “throw them under the bus” on the way!

Some of my thoughts and research on this health “care” debaucle that must be STOPPED!

OBAMA IS LYING ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD GET WITH THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION

Obama, during the campaign last year, touted a very moderate view of how he would handle healthcare “reform”.  From American Thinker:

When Obama was in pre-election campaign mode, he made some reasonable statements about healthcare. He wanted you to keep your insurance if you were happy with it. He told us that government-run healthcare with higher taxes was a bad idea. And he didn’t think anyone should be forced to purchase insurance. Only the most naive among us believed Obama’s sweet little promises, but at least they sounded nice.

Think about that as you soak in what Obama is trying to force upon us, our economy, and our kids/grandkids.  As President, he is almost a lone player (if you believe there are actually Blue Dog Democrats against it) in ramming through the current healthcare bill proposals at break neck speed….many of the healthcare fundamental reforms he’s touting are at 180 degrees opposite what Obama campaigned for. 

So hypocrisy and opportunism are two words that come to mind when hearing Obama tout this plan…..A third work that comes to mind is deceit!

Obama is lying and stating blatant inaccuracies in order to “get his way”.  Three main lies that he is touting were highlighted at the New York Post:

1)“If you like your current health-care plan, you can keep it.”   Even White Housespokesmen have said that Obama’s oft-repeated pledge that you can keep your current insurance isn’t meant to be taken literally…..the president supports an individual mandate — a requirement that every American buy health insurance…..

And that doesn’t just affect those without insurance today. The bills now before Congress say that while you won’t be immediately forced to switch from your current insurance to a government-specified plan, you’ll have to switch to satisfy the government’s requirements if you lose your current insurance or want to change plans.

Plus, the president supports the creation of a government insurance program that would compete with private insurance. But because this ultimately would be subsidized by American taxpayers, the government plan could keep its premiums artificially low or offer extra benefit.

In the end, millions of Americans would be forced out of the insurance they have today and into the government plan.Businesses, in particular, would have every incentive to dump their workers into the public plan. The actuarial firm the Lewin Group estimates that as many as 118.5 million people, roughly two-thirds of those with insurance today, would be shifted from private to public coverage.

2)“You will pay less.” The Congressional Budget Office has made it clear that the reform plans now being debated will increaseoverall health-care costs, yet President Obama on Friday repeatedly said that his reform would reduce costs and save Americans money.

But no matter how many times he says it, the truth is you will pay more — much more — both in higher taxes and in higher premiums.

….if one totals up all the new taxes in the House Democratic health-reform bill — the income surtax, the penalties on businesses and individuals that fail to buy into the government health plan, as well as other fees and taxes — the cost to US taxpayers will top $800 billion. New York City will face marginal tax rates as high as 57 percent.

At a time of rising unemployment and economic stagnation, that is like throwing an anchor to a drowning man.

In addition, the new insurance regulations expected to be part of the final bill are likely to drive up insurance premiums. And, if the new government-run plan under-reimburses doctors and hospitals — as Medicare and Medicaid do — providers would be forced to recoup that lost income by shifting their costs to private insurance, driving up premiums. A study by the Council for Affordable Health Insurance estimates that the president’s proposals could increase premiums by 75 to 95 percent.

3)”Quality will improve.” Anyone who thinks a government takeover of the health-care system will improve quality of care has only to look at the health-care programs the government already runs: The Veterans Administration is overwhelmed with problems, Medicaid is notorious for providing poor quality at a high cost — and Medicare has huge gaps in coverage.

Worse, however, on Friday, Obama endorsed the creation of a government board with the power to dictate how your doctor practices medicine and all but endorsed the rationing prevalent in nationalized health-care systems around the world.

Other great analysis of the  “untruths”  being preached to us are also found at “O’s Broken Promises: Health Bills vs. Prez’s words” at the Post.

GOVERNMENT-CONTROLLED HEALTHCARE HASN’T WORKED WHERE IT HAS BEEN TRIED.

The Obamacare proposals (of which many Obama is not even familiar) are nothing more than an attempt at government-controlled healthcare.  In other countries, such a system has resulted in millions waiting for needed care and for rationing of care to those deemed “not worth it” by government bureaucrats.

Obama expects us to believe him and not our “lying eyes”.  We can clearly see what government-run healthcare has done to other countries.  The care is inferior every where it is tried.

Two good examples of countries with government-run healthcare are Canada and Britain.  Canada has, at any given time somewhere around one million people on a waiting list for surgeries and other necessary procedures.  In Britain, breast cancer survival rates are well under US rates at 69% and 84%, respectively.

In Britian, life-saving cancer treatments are not given to those who the government bureaucracies feel are not “worth the expenditure” because they are too old!  I don’t know about you, but the government has no right to decide whether I, or my parents, live or die because they don’t deem me as “worth” it. 

The plan currently proposed WILL eventually ration healthcare just as its done in other countries….Obama and others have even insinuated as such.  Common sense dictates it as well….the government can not possible pay for all of the services for everyone (including illegal aliens) that we receive in healthcare today….so how do they try to provide it ?  By rationing the care that some receive.  It can be as seemingly benign as further limiting the number of mammograms a woman receives to disallowing cancer treatments altogether, as Britain does, on the elderly and those the GOVERNMENT decides are not worth the money.  It has played out in exactly that manner in other countries.

Yes, our healthcare may cost more, and that is why it is the best system in the world.

IF IT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR US WHY WON’T OBAMA AND DEMOCRATS SIGN ONTO RECEIVING THE EXACT “CARE” THEY ARE FORCING UPON US?

From The American Thinker:

“Under the current draft of the Democrat healthcare legislation, members of Congress are curiously exempt from the government-run health care option, keeping their existing health plans and services on Capitol Hill.”

Congressman John Fleming has offered a resolution that will give members of Congress “an opportunity to put their money where their mouth is, and urge their colleagues who vote for legislation creating a government-run health care plan to lead by example and enroll themselves in the same public plan.” Fleming’s resolution has over 40 cosponsors– but not a single one of the cosponsors is a Democrat.

Similarly, Obama has flatly refused to participate in the public health insurance program. I can’t blame Obama for wanting the very best health care for his own family, but I can blame him for being a hypocrite.

In the Senate, Tom Coburn successfully submitted an amendment that passed that the Senate Health Committee by a vote of 12 to 11.  This amendment requires members of Congress to use the same health plan they are forcing upon us.  However, if the bill is passed, there is a huge chance Democrats will cut this amendment from the bill during committee. (H/T: Gateway Pundit)

HOW SHOULD WE ADDRESS THE HEALTHCARE ISSUE IN THIS COUNTRY?

Obama, in his speeches, likes to say that 45 million Americans are uninsured — that is misleading.  Almost 2/3 of those are young people who CHOOSE not to have insurance and others who qualify for S-CHIP and Medicaid who don’t use it.  (Some are also illegal aliens who have no right to our healthcare system to begin with)

In addition, those that have coverage through companies are currently not able to keep that coverage if they move or go to a new company.

Point being, let’s encourage those citizens to use what is available.  At the same time, let’s modify the system to make healthcare more affordable where the consumer manages what they pay and what they receive, not the government.  We are not in need of a complete government takeover with 84 new government departments created in order to tell us what doctor and what care we can receive.  That is exactly what this current plan will do.

Like it or not, healthcare is not a “right” endowed by our bloated government! 

Any healthcare modifications should look at using what is available and then modifying the system to encourage tax credits or savings plans for those struggling to pay for healthcare.  Plans should be portable so that families can keep the insurance they have if they move from state to state.  That, in addition, to current offerings, goes a long way in covering those without healthcare….at least it gets you closer to that goal without government choosing what care you get and don’t get.

BOTTOM LINE:

What is being proposed is a massive, likely irreversible, government takeover of healthcare that is unconstitutional and Socialistic in nature.  Among all of its other faults, this current plan forces us to pay healthcare for 12 to 20 million illegal aliens, forces us to pay for abortions, further taxes “the rich”, and puts a financial penalty on individuals and businesses if we choose NOT to play in the government’s big “healthcare” plan.  (Those are all included in the current bill proposals).

Worst of all, the government chooses whose life is valuable and what procedures are necessary — ALL life is valuable and worthy of all humanly possible attempts to save it…and my doctor and I should decide what procedures are necessary for my care, not bureaucrats in Washington.

MORE REFERENCES:

We all need to be up to speed on what is happening with this healthcare debacle.  Here are more links and information, I highly recommend to become and stay informed.

Five Myths About Health Care at Forbes.com

Putting Citizens, not Government, in charge of healthcare at Heritage.org

One Step Closer To Losing Your Right to Healthcare at The American Thinker

Does Ted Kennedy deserve his extended care? at The American Thinker

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6 Responses

  1. There is a public option, not a government controlled healthcare system. Way to mimic the GOP talking points.

  2. Godless,
    Your name alone may explain your blind faith in Obama and the Left.

    In regards to your comment, you have not debated what the bill actually says….only ridiculed me. I took a look at your blog site and it seems you are in the business of ridiculing “the Right”, but not debating the issues.

    I’d suggest you comment with a little substance to back your slimy claims next time.

  3. I addressed an issue. You call it government controlled healthcare and I corrected you. I understand that you don’t like thinking about it.

  4. Godless,
    Oh, I get it….because your some God-slamming Leftist who worships Obama, just because you proclaim something….we should all take it as gold.

    Pardon me, but you’re wrong.

  5. If Godless was really off track you could have easily shown where the bill proposes “government controlled” healthcare. Instead you just started spraying spittle. Wipe off your monitor, take a deep breath and try to engage in reasoned discussion like a sane person.

  6. Abyssal,
    after your comment on the puppy post, I’m pretty sure you have no moral high ground to be telling anyone to engage in reasoned discussion.

    And for the record, if you read the post you will find how the bills under consideration advocate a system that, by design, forces private insurers out of business…..that leaves the government controlling our insurance, our fees, our care, and just about every aspect of the healthcare system in this country.

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